The Social Studies Corner

I truly agreed with jie xin that Singaporeans should be encouraged to venture abroad. As ‘going out’ of Singapore will mean more exposure, more opportunities and more career advances.

Singapore is a small country, with only a small population of about 2 to 3 millions. If Singapore companies were only to sell their products to Singaporeans, their profit will be very limited. However by globalizing their company, their products could be reach out to over millions and millions of people, earning astronomical figures. Furthermore, by having many Singapore global-listed company would add value to Singapore’s reputation.

As more companies world-wide has expanded their businesses overseas, people who have working experience in more than two countries will be highly sought after. Therefore, Singaporeans should be encouraged to work overseas, not only will they earn working experience overseas their port folio would also be more impressive (especially if they wish to work in a muti-national company.
 

I agree with Jie xin Singaporeans should be encouraged to venture abroad.In order to nurture an all-rounded talent,he or she must expose himself not only in a small country like Singapore but other countries too.In Singapore there's limited 'space' for one to expand his business.By venture abroad he can benefit not only from Singapore but new concept which learn from overseas.If that person achieve and success in that country,he or she will able to bring about Singapore's name to glory.In order for a person to success greatly in career,he cannot be spending all his life in a 'well' and afraid to look out from the 'well' and having new experience outside the 'well'.He must gain new knowledge so as to improve himself and become a greater person.
 

If Singaporeans go overseas and work, there is no guarantee they would return. We might end up losing our capable people to other countries. However much they are contributing, would not this benefit the country they are working in, and not Singapore?
 

TO Mr Sulaiman: Venturing abroad for a holiday is it counted?

In terms of getting our locals skilled:

I will definitely support the stand that Singaporeans should venture abroad with reference with the previous posts is the other question. With countless benefits like letting our locals exposed to the conditions around the world and bringing the relevant skills and experience back to Singapore would be benefitial.
 

On the other hand, I have with me a solution to the change of loyalty in Singaporeans.

1st solution:
Create a bond with our locals before sending them overseas this makes them locked to Singapore instead of giving them an option to stay there without coming back.

It is done through the passport means of males at a certain age should constantly renew their passports. This ensures local being not able to escape from NS [National Service]. In addition, this too can be done to locals going overseas.

Thus, Singaporeans are encouraged to venture abroad without the risk of not coming back.
 

Good point Michel. However, if we put too much rules in place, would not that make people very unhappy. Furthermore, someone can easily get another citizenship and not return back to Singapore forever. Venturing overseas has to do with doing some work or business overseas, not holidays.
 

Everyone have his or her own ambitious. If that Singaporean decides to stay there, he will have his own reason. Perhaps Singapore lack the 'equipment' needed for that person to carve out his dream? Or he thinks that country's environment suit him better. One thing for sure is if he continues staying in Singapore, he cannot get far. So why not 'let him go' instead of forcing him here when he think that place is better for him? Just like if someone from our school did excellent for exam and meet the quality of admitting into a famous school, which is his dream, is it better for us to 'release' him rather than keep him here? Moreover, if he continues to do well and score well during O level, our school will still feel proud as he once belong here. Same as Singaporean overseas, no matter what, Singapore is where they are born and did play a part in nurturing them. They cannot change their roots. Singapore cannot be selfish to keep that talent so that he or she cannot contribute to other country. However, Singapore can try to attract that talent back by giving him a more attractive package. No one can force a person decision.
 

I agree with what Jie xin, Zhiyue and Cihui said that Singaporeans should be encouraged to venture abroad. Singapore has limited resources for one to expand his business. Why not take the risk of letting that person go aboard instead of staying in Singapore without able to achieve much. Moreover, it is much more cheaper to set up a business abroad and gain more profits. As Singapore has limited land, every inch is priceless. However, in places like China, land is much much more cheaper compare to Singapore. The labour cost is also much more cheaper. Thus it is better for Singaporean to take the risk and venture abroad.
 

I also agree that SIngaporeans should be encouraged to verture abroad.Singapore is a small country with limited resources for one to expand his business.Thus,in order to success,locals need to go abroad and make their risks there.If one continue staying in Singapore,they will not know the world outside.Singapore land is very expensive and it is much more cheaper to set up a business abroad like China and gain more profits.If we didn't take the risk,how we know it will not suceed?However if we just stay in Singapore,we will never know the outside world.Thus i agree SIngaporeans should be encouraged to verture abroad.
 

I agreed with what cihui has said on her 1st comment, that ‘by venturing aboard … new concepts can be learnt from overseas’. Singaporeans who venture out would be able to bring ideas back to Singapore. As some things just can’t be imagine, you can never know Eg. How that new shopping mall overseas is able to attract so many people, unless you venture out and take a look, will you than know the idea behind this lucrative concept (maybe it is its infrastructure or maybe its themed- base shops)

Furthermore, some things can only be learned at that certain environment overseas. Eg. Learning Chinese. Chinese in Singapore can never be as good, because we just do not have that environment. As the best way for learning language is by interacting often with people that are fluent and has a wide vocabulary in that particular language. A person, however poor his Chinese is, after staying in china for 6 months, will surely be fluent in Chinese when he comes back. (I hope I’m not too far away from the topic >_<)
 

Theng Ong, if we are to tarnish the image of Singapore, then we do not need to venture out to do so. Singaporeans in Singapore can also tarnish the image of the country by what they are doing in Singapore.
 

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i agree with michel's solutions..well, it's really true that if singporeans go overseas to venture.The % that they will come back will bE 50:50. As in , if they do well abroad, they will become more ambitious and have more plans to venture further.but it's also true that venturing abroad bring risks.Its the same as investments>there is no investments that will give you the 100% assurance that u will surely gain/earn.YOu might never know that when some singaporeans ventured abroad and they failed, they *might* feel ashamed of facing their family memebers, relatives. if a particular singaporean has a talent and goes venturing abroad, he would be able to further his talents due to the exposures and make singapore proud.Thus, they are pros and cons should singaporeans be encouraged to venture abroad
 

Just wondering - Is there a problem with a Singaporean venturing out and settling down in another country? Can such a person still remain loyal to the nation? Does loyalty simply means serving national service and fight in war? How about those who settle down elsewhere but still talk well about Singapore and even encourage others to come to Singapore as tourists? Aren't they then still contributing to Singapore? Isn't it possible to contribute to Singapore even when one is settled down in another country?
 

As what many had earlier said, i feel that Singaporeans should be encouraged to venture abroad for both businesses and fun.
For businesses, they can have new business opportunities and there will be a wider market.
For fun, they can experience the different cultures of others around the world.

If we fear that they will not return, then it is time to work on the basics of instilling a sense of belonging to them of Singapore.

happy...shorter now ?
 

Actually, Singaproeans should be encouraged to venture abroad. Those who had already ventured abroad to stay or for education, still feel a sense of belonging to Singapore.

I remember in the news once, that Singaporeans overseas still long for the food and all the wonderful things in Singapore. Guess it means, no matter how hard you try, the place where you were born still lives a long memory in the heart.
 

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I do not agree with what Ye Jia commented at 3.30 am.

He said that Singaporeans would be exposed and may indulge in smoking, gambling and drinking while overseas. However, all these can be found in Singapore.Smoking can be from the peers. gambling through the Government supported, Singaporepools, and drinking with the numerouse Bars in Singapore.

Therefore the negative impact are very similar to those in Singapore as well overseas.
 

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I do not agree with Michel's solution at 4.11 am.

From what Michel suggest, i think he wants to safeguard the possibilities of Singaporeans running away. However, who are we to stop the people ? Singapore is a FREE country. We must not impose on them too strict rules and become dictator type country.

I would suggest INSTILLING A STRONG SENSE OF BELONGING INTO SINGAPOREANS rather than what Michel suggest.
 

I agree with what Justin said,” INSTILLING A STRONG SENSE OF BELONGING INTO SINGAPOREANS"
We cannot force someone back, or having too strict control. If Singapore really imposes strict control on those who venture abroad, they will still find other means and ways to escape if they want to. Not only that, they will say that Singapore is not a free country.
First, why do Singaporean want to stay overseas and not come back? Singapore is our home, and the government is our mother. Who wouldn't want to go home and rely on their mum? If that person doesn't want to, this shows that they do not feel they are part of Singapore. Moreover, if that Singaporean were doing well overseas, why would he come back Singapore when Singaore cannot help him much? Unless all things he did had become a failure, he will automatic come back to Singapore. Another reason can be Singapore do not have what he needs to expand his life long business, thus, in order to fulfil his dream, he will stay there. We cannot force someone but we can influence his thinking.
 

I agree with cihui that “We cannot force someone but we can influence their thinking.”
If a person wants to venture abroad, no matter what governments offer, they will still carry on. If the government impose strict rules on them, like “It is done through the passport means of males at a certain age should constantly renew their passports.”(mich said). They might just came back to renew their passports. Matter came worse; they might just stay at that country and be their citizen. As it is very troublesome for every a few years come back just to renew their passports. Thus, I think by influence his/her thinking is a better solution
 

Of course, s'poreans shud B encouraged 2 venture abroad!
By venturing abroad, they R exposed 2 new things, new surroundings, everything new. Only like this then can improve mah! Must also see what others R doing, try 2 do something better than what they did. Like what Cihui said, must look out of the ‘well’, look 4 new opportunities. Cannot only see ourselves. For example: maybe u invented something like… a computer, then u show around, blah blah. After a few years, u still using computer, but pple in other country use PDA, palmtop already!!!
 

Encouraging s’poreans 2 venture abroad is not always good. They may want to enjoy the luxury of being abroad; maybe they’ve got a likening to the country and feel that they wanna stay there. Maybe their business over there is prospering, and to concentrate better on the work, they migrate there. I have an uncle, working in a foreign company. I don’t really noe wat happened , but actually, he just went overseas to work. After a few months, he migrated to Canada to concentrate on his work, and he has a family!
Imagine what his daughter had to go through: she was actually a s’porean. Since her dad had 2 work overseas, she studied abroad. When she was 8, her dad came back to work in s’pore, so she came back too,and studied in a local primary skool. After 3 years, her dad needs to go overseas to work again, so, she went overseas too. And again after a few years, his whole family just migrated to Canada, so as to let him concentrate best on his work. His whole family had a lot to go through, adapting to different conditions.
 

so, venturing is good but, s'pore might lose talents, less people to show what s'pore can do bcos more and more pple go 2 other country, more foreigners will have jobs in s'pore, more foreigners will settle in s'pore. as time goes, s'pore won't have the original 'flavour' anymore.
 

Maybe if a person wants to migrate 2 other country after working there, must give restriction. if not everybody also want to migrate, where can? put restrictions like: they must have already worked there for about 7 years or more, and his/her family already practically living there for quite long already.
 

Yup, like wat Xin Li said about singers, i totally agree. if u are a singer, and u noe u'r albums are selling like hotcakes in s'pore. If that's the case, what abt out of s'pore? It'll be like hotdogs!!!
When u venture out of s'pore to promote u'r singing career, more people noe abt u, more pple buy u'r albums, u'll earn a lot more$$.
Who earns enough money? Nobody.
Who don't want more money?

BUT, singing career different leh, u'll always be based in s'pore. U'll always be recognized as: Oh, that singaporean singer ha?
Business one very different.
 

I won't stop here. But there is less friction in this article discussed. Last article is more interesting, so much more fun...
 

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I agree with Waranya and XinLi about encouraging singapore singers who have the potential to venture abroad.

I say this as it allows the potential singers to have a wider market. Furthermore, these singers are Singaporeans and they will know their roots and where they had come from. They can in turn promote the country for the well being of everyone. By venturing abroad and a being a regional star, the plusses or very great.

There is the case of the singer emigrating, however, i believe that for the past 10 years of singers who went abroad to expose their talents, hardly anyone emigrated, as they know, Singapore is the place where they have their roots.
 

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To XinLi:
I did not state the gender in my earlier posts.
Xin Li: PLs refer to my rebuttal on justin's comment. Maybe you can get some idea from there.

I'm not meaning 'lock'. Maybe it is to hard of a word to use here. Even if Singaporeans want to go overseas, they will still be a migrant there and they will be still recognised as Singaporeans. This will bring back pride to us. Isn't it?

We all know that it is not easy to migrate to another country unless you have a skill or you are well off. This is one of the methods of not allowing to many Singaporeans to migrate overseas.
 

To Desiree:
Women are suppose to stay at home and serve their hubbies... Right boys? Just joking dont take it to heart. lol Haha.

I'M ON YOUR SIDE WHY ARE U REBUTTING ME? Or else can you make your stand clearer I'm Confused on which side you are on. Are you encouraging or discouraging?
 

Regarding Mr Sulaiman's comment at 2.04am
Dont we need to know why they even go abroad and encourage the people there to come to S'pore.

If they go abroad because they hate the hectic life in S'pore, but they advise the people there to come over for a shopping trip because of our good shopping centres which are hectic. What would be the situation like now? Unloyal yet loyal?
 

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To Michel, regarding his queries...

Let me tackle the questions you have one by one.

"Can you please explain to me if Singapore will to be a free country why are there censorships in Singapore? " - Michel

Okay,i know the term free can also mean that censorships are abolished. However, a free country also ALLOWS THEIR CITIZENS TO GO WHERE THEY WANT WITH AS LITTLE RESTRICTIONS AS POSSIBLE .

The fact that you want to impose strict restrictions on the citizens from venturing abroad seems to be preventing their freedom, and also indicates that you want them for your own personal benefit. With that kind of thinking, not many people would see the logic and they will REBEL .
 

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To Michel, whose points i TOTALLY do not agree.

"Why Singapore still cannot bring down the rates of theft, etc? OK Justin lets not go national level. Lets talk about our surroundings." - Michel

Incalcating a sense of belonging in the citizens does not necessarily mean that the crime rate of the neighbourhood will go down. Even if you want to specify our surroundings, people who get involved in crime are because of two factors; POVERTY and PEER PRESSURE . You may not have understood these two factors and how it relates to sense of belonging.

When i say a sense of belonging it means that the people are devoted to their country. And that they will remember it when they leave the country. This has little to do with the BLOG'S TOPIC
 

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Instilling a strong sense of Belonging into singaporeans..weLl..i fuLly agree with this sentence..But how is it possible? what are the ways or solutions?....well, everyone has their own point of views..yes, i agree with what farahin had agree in xinli's point. that s'poreans should venture abroad so that they can learn new things and help Singapore develop by sharing the knowledge gained. By venturing singaporeans may just in one way or another help singapore's economy..
 

Hmm, Michel’s solution to keep Singapore’s own pool of talent does make a little sense. But I personally thinks that although measures soon be taken to prevent a large leak of own ppl to other countries, the measures taken should not be too harsh, making ppl feel suffocated. Also, imposing rules that are too strict may result in a smaller singapore population. Bcos, foreign talents will not want get a Singapore citizen, as they may be afraid the rules may tie them down, which means there will not be enough flow of foreigners coming in to fill up the flow of Singaporeans migrating (and Singaporeans who migrate may also be bcos of the strict rules). thus, imposing strict rules, in this case, greatly defeats it initial purpose. What I want to say is that, sometimes, one should not go overboard, as it may result in adverse effects.
 

To Justin:
Those were examples to give a clear picture to you. Thats all. You should have made your point clearer in the beginning about what is 'strict' and what is 'Free'

I perceive the statement you made 'Singapore is a FREE country. We must not impose on them too strict rules and become dictator type country.' as you dont want censorship. I think you may have classify censorships as strict.

Those things i said about the council, etc were just examples to show you what i was thinking, dont get irritated and lets dont go off track. Just debate on the question. I think we are going too far off.
 

To Justin and Xin Li:
Mr Sulaiman commented about my post as too many rules and NOT STRICT RULES. Why did strict rules come into the picture? Theres a Major difference between STRICT and TOO MANY.

I'm not saying that we abolish rules and things but I just picked up examples of council and thefts because Justin is too generalised with his statements.
 

i do not agree with jackie's point of view that singaporeans should venture abroad to witness new events and techonology.

Technology of the world is ever changing, and the internet is a wide resource of information. What is preventing the Singaporeans from using the internet to find out new info about the whole world.

However, Singaporeans should be encouraged dto venture abroad to experience the real difference of cultures and beliefs as well as open up to new opportunities which cannot be found in Singapore.
 

To: Desiree
That comment about women staying at home thing is just a joke, not a point. So laugh at it not rebut.

I agree totally with your point about the working with the word 'free' and 'rules'. These 2 words are very different but you managed to make them compliment each other. So I'll take my hat off for that.
 

With regards to the last point made by Michel...

"In School, you are a head councillor did you successfully manged to inject a sense of belonging to your council? ... It is a free country. Who are we do punish them, who are you to punish them? This is what you said isnt it? "-Michel

When punishments are implemeted, it is actually meant to allow people to understand what they have done wrong and thus build their character. We cannot say that just becauase it is a FREE coutnry, we must abolish ALL PUNISHMENTS. Do YOU NOT THINK that a state of ANARCHY might arise from your thought.

As i mentioned earlier, making Singapore a FREE Country is to ease on the rules and not rule it with an iron fist such that people will rebel . We want to encourage our citizens to venture abroad to have multiple benefits for THEM AND THE COUNTRY .

A sense of belonging is difficult to understand if one lives in good conditions and is sheltered, usually the youths. However, when a person leaves the country and he looks back into his life, he would feel that Singapore was a place he COULD CALL "HOME" when they venture abroad.
 

Remember everyone - at the end of the day, the discussion should not create any tension among friends. Singaporeans going global is definitely beneficial to Singapore. But in the process we might lose these Singaporeans completely. How can Singaporeans overseas still contribute to Singapore?
 

Xin Li, noted your points. However, those are the benefits which come with living in a inter-connected and inter-related world. How in specific a Singaporean living overseas contribute to Singapore.
 

Singaporean who is living overseas can contribute to Singapore not only in economy but the reputation and image of Singapore. Singaporean overseas must definitely not commit crimes there. E.g. During the Huang na case, "Ah Hao" the Malaysian kill her and thus the people living in the same village as Huang na in China who did not have a chance to travel abroad, will have a bad impression of Malaysia. If Singaporeans when overseas were to follow all rules, we will definitely gain respect from the people there, and they will also think that people in Singaporeans are well educated with good manners and Demeanour. Thus, Singaporean overseas can contribute to Singapore’s Image and reputation.
 

Xin Li - do post your comments in proper sentences. This forum is also an opportunity for us to brush up our language. Errm maybe I should ask Mdm Azwiza to take a look at this forum and provide feedback from language point of view :)
Ferza - are you sure Fandi Ahmad rejected overseas offer? He was on contract with FC Groninghen for the Dutch League and also had a short stint with Ajax Amsterdam. He played for Niac Mitra an indonesian club and also for sometimes we was with Pahang for the Malaysia Cup. Most of Fandi Ahmad's soccer career was spent overseas.
 

When a Singaporean settles overseas and set up a business there, and when their businesses are doing very well and successful, they will definitely become wealthy. Thus, they could use a little portion of their money earned to contribute to Singapore, by donating money either to Singapore or to other countries which are needy.

Donating money to Singapore can help needy Singaporeans. This amount of money will greatly benefit the needy. As it could be use to help old folks, orphans, disables, and patients who could not afford their medical bills. This thus will make our society better.

Donating money to other countries can help Singapore bring up its reputation. As those people who received help from Singaporeans will be grateful to Singapore, and will think that Singaporeans are kind and helpful. When other people had a good image of Singapore, people from countries will then be more willingly to made friends with Singapore. This will improve thus improve Singapore’s relationship with other country
 

okay jackie, i agree with yon point of view now.

Techonology is something which people cannot share freely on the web, therefore, encouraging Singaporeans to venture abroad to learn these stuff is certainly beneficial for both them and the country.
 

In my opinion, i think that singaporeans living abroad can contribute to singapore indirectly For example,if a singaporean were to venture abroad, they would be able to spread our ethnicity over there enriching our culture in singapore more. Through this, people from other countries would know more about singapore and would be interested to find out more.
 

This is to comment on one of jackie's post. We would be able to strengthen our bonds and bilateral ties with other foreign countries by venturing in them. The latest news now is that singapore is building better ties with saudi arabia because of economic issues.Therefore if singaporeans were to venture abroad, greater bonds would then be created.
 

But if more and more venture abroad, s'pore will lose its ethnicity and culture. Therefore i agree to waranya's post on s'pore losing its 'óriginal' flavor. We would lose more talented and better ppl in the process in the business sector.
In conclusion, there are a lot of pros and cons to this question.
So what do you guys think?
 

Singaporeans living overseas can help to contribute to Singapore by setting up a partnership business with Singaporeans in Singapore. in this way, they can give a head start to young investors, helping young people who have good ideas (but no funds) financially. This will help promote entrepreneurship in Singapore, and thus our economy will grow.
 

with regards to what heng kai say, i cannot agree on first comprehension. if heng kai had meant that singaporeans should be encouraged to venture abroad so that there will be population drop in singapore. i do not really agree with this point.

singaporeans overseas does not necessarily mean that the population of singapore is decreased.

however, if he meant that there will be lesser people in singapore, the numbers who venture abroad are insignificant and will not add much impact on the population.
 

I disagree with waranya’s point of view, that: s'pore won't have the original 'flavour' anymore.
As migration of Singapore at any on time would not be so large that it would cause Singapore to lose its ‘original flavor‘due to lack of ‘pure’ Singaporeans. I think most people would not bear to leave his/her whole clan of family behind, to migrate overseas . Furthermore, migration is an expensive matter, only people who are well-off will be able to do it without much difficulty. Thus I disagree with her.
 

Oh yeah, I agree with Joyce saying that Michel’s solution to keep Singapore’s own pool of talent does make sense. This is for the sake of s’pore. What if like most of our talented pple went overseas? S’pore won’t have their own pool of talented pple and depend more on the foreign talents. When this occurs, pple will think that s’poreans are not loyal to their own country, bcos Instead of helping their own country, they went to other country and did not really help their own country.
 

So, does loyalty still remains in a s’porean when he/she ventures out and do not return to s’pore? Or worst still, migrate there and live there forever?

Most of the families, if the family is big, they won’t migrate all together. Maybe only that person who nids 2 work overseas migrate only lah. But, I think even for small families, the whole family won’t really migrate together. Unless it’s both or 1 of the parents who nids 2 work oerseas, who wants to change and Readapt to a whole new environment when u u’rself has already settled down nice and cosy in a country? I’ll be the first to say: I won’t do it for the sake of anyone. Unless it’s really for my own good…
 

aishini

i think that it is encouraged that s'poreans venture abroad. when they go abroad, they get a chance to develop their talents.just like how foriengers come to s'pore to develop their talents,and their talents are appreciated here. lkewise,thats how s'poreans will be appreciated overseas.thus, i strongly encourage that s'poreans venture abroad.
 

Oh yah, actually, Theng Ong is quite right...

But,i think, it is like a puzzle. This fits this and that fits that. BUT, a foreign talent might not be able to do sumthing that a talented s'porean can do. AND a talented s'porean might not be able to do sumthing that a foreign talent can do.

Oh, i juz realise i'm dragging this to the previous issue discussed... Sorry(".)
 

yes i think s'poreans should venture overseas as it creates a name for s'pore in the various countries thus globalising our country.we venturing overseas is like foreign talents coming over here,we r thus valued,if we r gd,in those countries.
 

according to some of u,s'poreans venturing means losing our talents to other countries.yes i agree with tt however if they wld rather stay in other countries than return to s'pore,they r not fit to call themselves s'poreans so we r actually not losing anything.i wld rather settle for the foreign talents who call s'pore their hm than those 's'poreans'.
 

aishini

i agree wif wad peiyi said abt those who rather stay overseas thn to cum back here. however like mr sulaiman said, there r s'poreans abroad who contribute to our nation by promotin s'pore and by globalising s'pore. they still value their homeland, but still do their best to contribute to the country they are stayin in so as not to let the people there think that these s'poreans are useless and have no talents.
 

aishini

when s'poreans venture abroad, they also get a chance to get a "so-called" holiday while working there. however, this shld nt be taken lightly as i think that instead of wastin their time there, they might as well stay in s'pore and not waste the resources in going there.
 

aishini

i agree wif what adeline said abt the s'poreans whu go overseas may nt return hre. they may choose to stay there and develop themselves. this will be a loss for s'pore as even 1 person contributes alot to the economy. however,the country that they ae staying in will also benefit as that particular s'porean will contribute there.so i dun really think that it is bad for s'poreans 2 venture abroad.
 

aishini

has any1 ever thought that s'pore may lose everything that they have if all
s'poreans were to venture abroad and work? wouldnt it be a disaster? imagine that situation now, it will affect all of us students too. although the other countries will benefit from the s;poreans contributions, but our country will lose alot and thus,seeing this,those s'poreans abroad may nt want to come back here to even help.
 

I agree with Justin's comment on Heng Kai's post. It will not really affect the population of Singaporeans.

However, I want to agree with Heng Kai to a certain extent that S'poreans that hold key positions and roles in Singapore venture abroad, this will greatly affect Singapore and its population.[ If this is what he is saying ]

If this happens, it will be disastrous if you think what will happen to S'pore. Losing the CEO of Singtel for an example... It is not desirable.
 

I think that Singaporean should go overseas so as to widen their knowledge and avoid being ‘frog in a well’. By venturing abroad, they can gain IQ, EQ and become more creative. In today’s society, we need those ‘skills’ in order to go far. Although these skills can be learn in Singapore, I still think it is better by going overseas as you tent to gain more when you are overseas (exposed more things).
 

I think that some skills are better to be learn from overseas. Although Singapore had foreigner talent who can teach you, but I think it is better to experience it yourself.
E.g. You want to become a great architecture, there are 2 choices for that architecture to choose from. Choice1: learnt in Singapore, study Singapore’s buildings. Sometimes you surf Internet for more information. Choice 2: go overseas and learn the unique style of their building and visualize the buildings.
I will definitely choice 2. Internet will not provide you everything you want thus by going overseas, you can find your answers and have a better understanding. Sometimes you may also discover something new which you have never thought of.
 

i agree with brian S'poreans should be encouraged to venture abroad so as to share their expertice & knowledge with the rest of the world..BY doing so, like what other people had stated, other countries people would then know about singapore and be more interested in spore,upon learning that setting up business in spore would be good, those businessmen would then have a good impression of singapore and thus set up business or companies , leading to the growth of singapore's economy,
 

i agree with farah that singaporeans venture abroad it is the same as promoting Singapore to people from other countries.
it also help to find bussiness oppotunities and the people will gain more expriences and knowledge by working venture aboard.thus i think it is good to venture
 

To Aishini and Pei Yi - no one should be sharing usernames. Create your own. Also your user name xp1ggyzx does not make any sense! I thought i made it clear that the user name should be easy enough for the others to know who you are.
 

About Jing Mei’s 2 choices, I think all of us will choose choice 2. That's bcos in S’pore, u see here see there all quite the same pattern.
Whereas, u go to other countries, there's different kinds of architecture, different design, all totally different, some also nicer. Venturing out of s’pore gives you VARIETY! There’s more choices toselect from.
 

ERMM...Michel, may i ask, why losing the CEO of Singtel is not desirable?
i'm not saying that it is desired, but it really have a bad effect meh?
One CEO only mah. Why the CEO very important until affect s'pore and its population?
 

If we do not go overboard we will not meet new challenges and stay competitive. How are we going to compete with the world when the people do not feel competitive? Yes, some of them will not come back, but the point is not all of those who venture abroad will remain in that country.
If we do not go overboard, we will lose out, as we cannot depend on the foreign talent. In another word, we need better skills than them for our survival. Thus we must go overboard to gain new experience. This is the only way for Singapore to remain competitive.
 

Comment on mich post abt creating a bond wif the people, before sending them overseas. erm, i totally disagree with this point because it is immpossible to 'lock' people to something in this mordern sociality. People have their own choice on where they wanna be. It would be immpossible to so call 'trap' them.
A bond would not work, people would look for their well-fare rather than be loyal to the country.
 

INSTILLING A STRONG SENSE OF BELONGING INTO SINGAPOREANS! i like this verse from justin. I totally agree with it. A strong sense of belonging will always attract Singaporean overseas back. Example, their families here in Singapore. They will always come back to visit them when ever they are free. This will always keep this Singaporean feel belong to Singapore. Another example like letting them keep their apartments here that they once owned. They will feel that they always have a place to come back to, their real home.
 

I agree with Qingmei not all of those who venture abroad will choose to remain in that country. It only concerned of a minority of those who venture abroad. If this is the reason why Singaporean should not be encourage to venture abroad, it will result in Singapore greatly dependent on foreign talent and also, Singaporean will be portray as a bird lock in a cage, unable to get out waiting for it's master to feed. Although when this bird is release out of the cage, it may not return, Singapore should still take the risk.
 

comment on hawkx post.. u sae that A bond would not work, people would look for their well-fare rather than be loyal to the country. well.. i think that it is true as singapore jobs are being taken up by foreign talents and if they want to survive in this world they have to go out to venture abroad. take my father 4 example. he studies chinese medicine but in singapore there is too many competition and the rent is not cheap therefore he felt that going other countries to start a business may be a better choice.. ya
 

jie ying~!! boo~! came to agree with u also~!!! haha.. i agree when u go out to other countries u will gain experience and the experience is sometimes sweet and sometimes bitter because other foreign may cheat us and it is up to out street knowledge to differentiat those good and bad people.. so therefore i agree that u will gain alot of experience when u were to venture out..
 

yeah i agree with wee chun.. u will not forget that u were once a singaporean because u will also hav relative and friends in singapore and there is a thing called as msn and email. they will always remind u that u were once from singapore. maybe u will forget that u were once a singaporean when u hav an accident then hav a head concussion then maybe u will forget about it.
 

jie ying.. is there anyone who went to other country and bring back what they hav learnt to singapore?? if anyone did bring back what they learnt, shouldnt it be posted in the newspaper so that people can learn from example.?
 

to ferza point.. u agree to both brian and xin li point. that means that parents play an important role in this society. but den how do we noe if we have installed the sense of belonging in us?
 

Yea! Brian. I agree with you. It's hard to "INSTILLING A STRONG SENSE OF BELONGING INTO SINGAPOREANS"..
Like what xinli mention about parents a big influcence on their children. Yes! if their parents wanted to migrate to another country but failed to because of some reason. Their children will do their best to help fulfill their parents dream. If parents influence their children about the good of singapore, Most likely they will stay and follow their parents. Like what i said in my last post. We must make something that singaporeans overseas look forward to come back one day. Most likely their family or some place they really call home.
 

hmm? venturing abroad. Most of you guys are disscusing about this. Of cos it's the question! lOLs. erms, many of you are talking about getting experience from venturing aboard. Yes! i totally agree. Example was PAP. I mean People's Action Party. LKY when he was the PM of Singapore, he ventured out of Singapore. What he thought would be a success plan for Singapore failed. He ventured into China, with intentions of setting up companys there. When construction was about to start, He was told there are no water supplies, no electricity, no roads.
Singapore had to build if we want and that will cost alot. In the end the plan failed. Nth was build. Singapore suffered a major lost. In conclusion, there are always risk but i will still encourage singaporean to venture. Just check for even the smallest details to minimise getting cheated.
 

Add on to my last post. PAP learn the lesson and applied it. Now a days u rarely see Singapore failing as in investments overseas. It was a learning experience, though failing Singapore still gain experience from venturing abroad.
 

hmm. comments on leroy post. U say will they crumble? the main point is they were the ones would failed and have the most experience in why they failed. If others are willing to put their trust in them and work together fiancially, or maybe the goverment could help them by providing aid fiancially. They may succeed in the end. However, this do not usually happen, those who failed just crumble. With no help from anyone the will not try to venture again from the lesson they learned. They will just stay back and do things that are not that much risk involve. Help? or not to Help? U Decide..
 

-.- antz jus posted eariler than me
* i never see it.. XD
 

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peiyi

i agree with wat leroy said.the experience gained will make us a more marketable labour source.n like they say no pain no gain ritez?if they actually do come back they can teach the younger generation all they have experienced then they wld not need to go overseas.
 

erm. I tink what leroy means that is the people who succeed can maybe come back and share of their success. This are the people who really succeed and not those who have experience of failing but nvr trying again. Even if they try again they may fail once again.To answer peiyi's qns. Of cos they would, if singapore would invite them back for speeches why would they come. Issit it a houourable tink to do? u'll be known all ard Singapore. kind of like famous. Who does want fame?
 

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